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iain1775
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Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 03, 2010, 01:41:16 PM »
One of these -
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Token_Tiramic_Bottom_Bracket/5360039115/
Anyone any experience?
Reviews seem half decent but no feedback on how long bearings last
Obvously they are replaceable (unlike Shimano) but if they only last 10 minutes then no point really
Im assuming there is some sort of seal or cap over the end that isnt shown in that pic or the water and grit will just get straight in there?
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 03, 2010, 09:26:23 PM »
No experience of these BB's but another suggestion would be to send the cups off to BETD and get heavy duty bearings fitted:
http://www.mountainbikecomponents.co.uk/items.asp?CategoryID=237&Name=Hollowtech+II+bearing+upgrade
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 03, 2010, 09:30:10 PM »
Quote from: PeteH on May 03, 2010, 09:26:23 PM
No experience of these BB's but another suggestion would be to send the cups off to BETD and get heavy duty bearings fitted:
http://www.mountainbikecomponents.co.uk/items.asp?CategoryID=237&Name=Hollowtech+II+bearing+upgrade
Not without a BB to send them in the first place
The RaceFace one I took off yesterday is probably not worth salvaging to be honest so I need a new one
Will prob just go with a cheap one from Superstar or a Gusset one but I fancied that Token one as I could get it for £50 in green (having a bit of a Christchurch-esque anodizing thing at the mo
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Steve P
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 03, 2010, 11:41:13 PM »
Quote from: iain1775 on May 03, 2010, 01:41:16 PM
Obvously they are replaceable (unlike Shimano)
I've just replaced a set of HT2 Shimano BB bearings with replacement Enduro ceramic ones. Not a difficult job at all. Shimano say 'Do Not Disassemble' but no reason not to.
In fact exactly what BETD would do if you sent them off as per the link above.
Appreciate you need a decent BB to fit them into first ...
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iain1775
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 03, 2010, 11:45:51 PM »
ceramic bearings eh steve?
does this mean now when you stop you will not only forget to unclip in time but your legs will still be spinning when you hit the deck
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Steve P
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 03, 2010, 11:51:59 PM »
Maybe. Haven't ridden them yet.
They'll be at Lee Quarry this weekend though.
Just disassembled the Meta linkage and all the bearings need replacement, as well as the lower shock bushings.
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 09:07:08 AM »
Quote from: Steve P on May 03, 2010, 11:51:59 PM
Just disassembled the Meta linkage and all the bearings need replacement, as well as the lower shock bushings.
likewise (bushings okay though but shock needs full service so Mojo will replace them anyway) except I cant get my bearings out of the linkage arm or get the main pivot off and I may have been too genorous with the hammer
I have 4 main pivot bearings spare if you want a good deal on them?
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Steve P
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 09:31:31 PM »
Quote from: iain1775 on May 04, 2010, 09:07:08 AM
I have 4 main pivot bearings spare if you want a good deal on them?
Sorry, saw this too late. Ordered complete set of EnduroMax from the States.
Haven't tried to budge the main pivot bearings yet but after my experience with them last time I won't even be trying. The swingarm will be going to my lbs (Bike Tree if they're tooled up for it).
Don't think I'll have a problem with the 608's - except maybe for the ones in the wishbone.
A quick look at those suggests that the hollow axle could prove difficult to dislodge.
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 09:56:27 PM »
Quote from: Steve P on May 04, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
Sorry, saw this too late. Ordered complete set of EnduroMax from the States.
A quick look at those suggests that the hollow axle could prove difficult to dislodge.
No worries, I have 4 Enduro Max's from BETD spare (as I got me a freebie set of bearings 'on test' from 'elsewhere')
yeah I had the same problem
cue hammer that may have been to big and a poorly looking inner sleeve stuck against a bearing!
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Steve P
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 10:02:27 PM »
Quote from: iain1775 on May 04, 2010, 09:56:27 PM
No worries, I have 4 Enduro Max's from BETD spare
Well, to bring this thread round full circle, you realise that the main pivot bearings - 6805-2RS - are the same size as BB bearings...
Good luck to us both. Let me know how you get on with yours.
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iain1775
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 10:39:31 PM »
ah good point well made Steve!
I'll just get a cheap BB then eh!?!
I can let you know how I got on with mine already - it's fucked and I can't be arsed with it anymore, hurts my sore ribs to hit it any harder!!!!
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Steve P
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 10:53:47 PM »
Just check that your crank axle fits through the beearing with no play before you splash out.
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Re: Token Tiramic Bottom Bracket
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May 04, 2010, 11:00:06 PM »
Quote from: Steve P on May 04, 2010, 10:53:47 PM
beearing
Holding your 'e's there Steve, that'll be that scouse upbringing
Will do in morning, cheers for the tip off I probably wouldnt have realised
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