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2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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Muffler
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2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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October 11, 2008, 10:37:49 AM »
Hello
I'm a happy 08 5.5 owner, but intrigued by the geometry changes for 2009: I think they may have built my perfect bike... I'm 5'11", normal proportions and riding a medium 2008 frame. It's about a perfect do-it-all one bike solution for all day riding, the usual short black runs or all day rides around the lakes.
It's a great bike already, but I've always felt the wheelbase was a touch short, and that I would have prefered a slightly longer toptube for those climbs where the front wonders around just a little too much (I ride with a 100mm, 10 deg stem). There's also as much seatpost showing as I'm comfortable with, and wouldn't want any shorter seat-tube. Ideally, I'd like a longer TT and a slightly shorter stem.
Look at the changes below, comparing 2008 medium and 2009 large:
Top tube: 572 593
Seat tube: 450 475
Wheelbase: 1105 1131
Head tube: 110 135 (about the same when allowing for the semi integrated design)
Head angle: 68.5 68
Seat angle: 69 68.5
I probably wish they'd increased the seat tube angle a touch, rather than slacken - and I'd have preferred .5kg off the frame weight, but hey...
Two questions:
1. Does anyone have a picture of the 09 frame in large (the 08 large
looked
massive - and that put me off; clearly a bit of a tart, I know)?
2. Also, can anyone confirm the frame only option now takes a 30.9 post (a great reason to change alone, for me anyway)?
Thanks all
Muff.
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gravity-slave
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Posts: 148
Re: 2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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October 11, 2008, 05:45:08 PM »
Alright,
I'm in a very similar boat! I'm a shade under 6 foot and riding a '08 medium. The top tube was just too high on the '08 large for the riding I do. I run a 90mm stem and fancied getting it down to a 70mm. The new large would give me the longer top tube and lower (than 08) seat collar.
I don't have the details but believe the frame comes with a Thomson post. If it's 30.9, I'd sell the Thomson and fit a height adjustable one. The longer top tube, slacker head angle and an adjustable post would make a great bike better for me!
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hanleyrh
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Re: 2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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October 11, 2008, 07:53:04 PM »
Yep the new Meta's come with the Thompson seatpost and if you go for a large it's 30.9. You also get a free headset. I've just built myself a 09 Meta 5.5 VIP so first ride tomorrow. We have all sizes in stock.
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Muffler
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Re: 2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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October 11, 2008, 10:56:26 PM »
Quote from: hanleyrh on October 11, 2008, 07:53:04 PM
Yep the new Meta's come with the Thompson seatpost and if you go for a large it's 30.9. You also get a free headset. I've just built myself a 09 Meta 5.5 VIP so first ride tomorrow. We have all sizes in stock.
Excellent. If you want to post a pic of the bike built up, that would be great.
I run the medium with a layback Thomson post (which has quite an offset) - I guess moving to a Joplin will keep the cockpit about the same length, but given the bike a bit more stability on the way up, as well as down. Really, it could be about perfect...
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legion
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Re: 2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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October 13, 2008, 10:46:44 AM »
Quote from: Muffler on October 11, 2008, 10:56:26 PM
Excellent. If you want to post a pic of the bike built up, that would be great.
I run the medium with a layback Thomson post (which has quite an offset) - I guess moving to a Joplin will keep the cockpit about the same length, but given the bike a bit more stability on the way up, as well as down. Really, it could be about perfect...
Plus, going from an offset post to a straight one would compensate for the seat angle being slackend (is that an actual word?).
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Muffler
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Re: 2009 Meta 5 Geometry Changes - Thoughts and pics needed...
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October 13, 2008, 05:23:53 PM »
Quote from: legion on October 13, 2008, 10:46:44 AM
Plus, going from an offset post to a straight one would compensate for the seat angle being slackend (is that an actual word?).
That's true, infact, it'll effectively steepen it. I'll be having a difficult conversation with the missus over this sometime very soon...
Oh, and it is a word, you just missed out another 'e' before the 'd'... ;-)
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