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[shamjb]

can meta 5.5 with oEM parts handle drop 5 feet or more 

[Vic-Tim.com]

Yes...but so would a £200 cheap bike!

However the Meta 5.5 is not designed for 5 foot drops...( and the warranty doesn't cover that sort of use ).

If you are doing 5 foot drops, get a bike designed for it...MiniDH, Furious or DH 

Hope that helps

Tim S

[djglover]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ginja_andy/2620976231/sizes/o/in/set-72157605884163295/

It will be fine on a lot bigger if you are smooth

[shamjb]

ha...ha..ha...  now i believe,nice photo bro.......

[doml]

Dan, wondered if you were on here....

Will easily handly more than 5ft drops.

What a load of nonsense its not designed for it.. mmm only designed by Remy absalon....  5ft drop is just XC usage in my book.

[Vic-Tim.com]

What a load of nonsense its not designed for it...

'tis true, believe it or not most trail/xc riders don't do 5ft drops and unless you are hitting up natural drops, you are only likely to find 5ft drops in the freeride sections of bike parks or on DH trails.

The Meta 5 is an all-round trail bike and yes it can cope with 5ft drops, heck you could do a world cup downhill ride on it, but it isn't 'designed' for it.

And Remy isn't a big jumper...he sticks to the ground and keeps the pedal action going...the Meta series and Contact system reflect that.

I would just suggest if you are regularly hitting the big stuff ( and 5ft is starting to be a big drop ), then get a bike which will make it easier?

But each to their own....

Tim S

[steveb]

"What a load of nonsense its not designed for it"

Erm, no it's not nonsense, it's 100% correct.

No matter which way up you try to spin it, 5' drops ARE NOT considered "normal" XC riding, assuming your measuring your drops in the usual way that is*. They might be normal to you, but they are absolutely not to the majority of the XC riding fraternity.

* I have seen drops measured is some very odd ways, to the extent that one guy refused point blank to accept that the 2' drop he was going off was not a five footer: He was measuring the straight line distance from the take off lip to the point the front wheel touched down! And on a recent riding trip some folk ensisted the drop they were doing was 5'. it's not even 3'! It's funny how 5' seems to be the magic size. Nowadays personally I doubt I'd ride anything bigger than 5', and that would beed a nice tranny. That's measuring in an effective vertical line from the lip of the take off to landing point.

[doml]

I was being a little sarcy, having been at this biking like a little while (first proper bike a 93 kona fire mountain, fully rigid), its ALL XC really...... makes me laugh at some of the groups riding is put into nowadays (I mean what the f**k is aggressive XC or freeride-lite)

Of course if all I was doing was wanting to ride drops or race DH then Id get slacker angles. But not seeing 5ft (vert not distance) as a BIG drop, especially to something with a transition, and wanting to go down to one bike. I picked the Meta, under the expectation it was built for this kind of riding.
Commencals own blurb states it was designed for the 'most demanding of riders' and has 'wins in enduro and marathon downhill events' and 'fly down at crazy speeds'. So Im a bit concerned that people like yourselves (who I believe work for a significant seller of the brand) would look to claim it isnt built to take it. Would commencal see such a drop as voiding warranty? Glad I didnt make it to the Mega this week then....
Presumably everyone whos done the shed drop on one in Les gets has voided it as well.....

[steveb]

If you've been in this game for a while you'll know that what the marketing dept blurb says ain't always what the bike is warrantied for.

Would Commencal see such a drop as voiding a warranty? Nothing is ever that clear cut. If say someone broke a Meta in an unknown way, and it transpired they'd been running is DH regulary would it void the warranty? Ya, I'd say so. That's not to say it wouldn't be replaced FOC, but that would be more a good will gesture than warranty. But that's only my opinion, as you say I only work for a Commencal dealer so to get the word from the horses mouth you'd need to aask them direct.

I'd hazard a guess that to 90% of the MTB riding population five foot is a big drop, I'd go so far as to say most of that 90% would see it as a very big drop.

If we're gonna play the "i've been riding a long time" game, I got my first proper MTB in 89, my first "top end" bike in 91/92 (can't recall), a Kilauea. I've been at this lark a while too. Been riding full suss almost exclusively since 94. MTBing is not all XC. We can argue the toss on that one forever, but it's not. Yes, there are way too many neat sectors of bikes nowadays, but that's all just marketing bollox, but to say it's ALL XC is going too far in the opposite direction.

It's not about XC, or DH, or FR, or all mountain aggressive freeride lite cross country, it's about right tool for the job, and if the job at hand is regulary riding 5' foot drops, sorry the Meta 5.5 is not the tool for it.

[djglover]

for what its worth that drop is probably 5 '6", but you end up landing a foot or down it.  So therefore my freeride tape measure makes it 7'  It is very smooth but there is a 4' foot drop to the right of it that is horrible and would bottom the meta out, so I don't do it.

Its all about carefully chosen lines.  a good rider could take a meta off the chatel road gap 15' and not get through half the travel, (I am too much of a wus for that) so the debate about size of drop is moot really

Hello Dom

[raechard]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ginja_andy/2620976231/sizes/o/in/set-72157605884163295/

It will be fine on a lot bigger if you are smooth

Looks familiar.. swinley?

edit: wait, just realised who you are 

[steveb]

Totally. I recall a guy in about 94/95 did a huge road gap, on a road bike, incredibly to watch. Vertical drop was silly, near 20' I'd say. The tranny was perfect. He rode it out fine. I've seen guys break perfectly good DH bikes doing a two footer over and over again and landing like a sack of poo each time.

A Meta over a five foot drop is indeed a moot point, until you turn that drop is a general guide as to what the bike is capable of, then it's a whole different ball game. Many people read forums like this, read comments like that then use it as a basis for what bike they need. Gee could ride a Meta 5 off a five footer all day and it'd be grand, the average rider with the average skill level couldn't, he'd eventually break the bike if he didn't break himself first. As a responsible Commencal dealer I kinda feel it's my job to point this out.

[djglover]

Totally. I recall a guy in about 94/95 did a huge road gap, on a road bike, incredibly to watch. Vertical drop was silly, near 20' I'd say. The tranny was perfect. He rode it out fine. I've seen guys break perfectly good DH bikes doing a two footer over and over again and landing like a sack of poo each time.

A Meta over a five foot drop is indeed a moot point, until you turn that drop is a general guide as to what the bike is capable of, then it's a whole different ball game. Many people read forums like this, read comments like that then use it as a basis for what bike they need. Gee could ride a Meta 5 off a five footer all day and it'd be grand, the average rider with the average skill level couldn't, he'd eventually break the bike if he didn't break himself first. As a responsible Commencal dealer I kinda feel it's my job to point this out.

I agree totally, and a 5 foot drop to flat for a learner driver would probably result in a broken rider or bike

[Vic-Tim.com]

can a human body with oEM parts handle drop 5 feet or more

Depends on the age of the body? 

That said I know lots of older generation skateboarders who land flat from much higher than 5ft with nothing but their knees for suspension 

Tim S

[doml]

See my sense of humour is going down lack a sack of sh*t here. Its all XC is just a comment that when we all started it was just all bike riding. uphill racing was the big thing and there wasnt all this segmentation and concern over what bike can do what (oh no ive encountered a drop on the trail better head back to the car and get the correct bike....) Believe the original question was can a meta handle a 5ft drop and believe the answer has to be yes it can as long as you know what your doing and all bikes can break if you do things badly (seen 222s peel open when swingarm meets a stump). But the important thing is the meta can go uphill as well.

So metas are great bikes. Love mine wouldnt go back to having a 'big bike'. I dont see the point anymore of driving for 6hrs to accumulate 30mins of riding in a day..... rather ride up and down.

They can handle a few drops if you know what your doing.

Oh and of course its all XC. 

Oh and 92 Joe Murray Kiluauea... I hate you.